Hello everybody from btp!
i know handcharts are supposed to be only an orientation,
but for this purpose, i'd like to know,
if anyone managed to learn the charts- so he doesn't have to use a cheatsheet- and would you tell me?

I admit I find it pretty hard.

also I'd like to know if you think that nolimit preflop hands should be a little tighter than limit hands?

a limit cashgame opening range3max)

btn(41%)
any pair, any ace, K8o+,K2s+, Q8o+,Q6s+, J9o+,J7s+, T9o,T8s
98o,97S, 65s+ (suitedconnectors)

SB(36%)
any pair, any ace, K8o+,K6s+, Q9o+,Q8s+, J9o+,J8s+, T9o,T8s
65s+ (suitedconnectors)

 Defending BB
raise from btndef 38%)
any pair, any ace, K8o+,K5s+, Q8o+,Q6s+, J8o+,J6s+, T7s, 97s
65s+ (suitedconnectors)
 raise from SBdef 57%)
any pair, any ace, K5o+,K2s+, Q6o+,Q2s+, J7o+,J4s+, T7o-87o, T4s-64s

Would you open in a nl cashgame as wide and defend as wide as the range says?

(ranges taken from shorthanded limit hold em book by Terry Borer, Lawrence Mak und Barry Tanenbaum)

ps the book helped me to win some microsngs by using these limit 6max opening ranges to open when the sngs became shorthanded.

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theblackspy

thanks blackspy....very cool  

Just play a lot, at the beginning wou'll have to look at the sheet very often, but after a couple thousand hands, you won't need the sheet anymore.

Also, your NL range should be smaller, because in no limit, everytime you decide to play a hand, you have to keep in mind that you can loose your whole stack.

if you keep playing while checking chart, ranges by position should become imprinted in your brain very soon. few k hands and you will know it by heart.

Do you guys actually use charts, and barely deviate from them?? honestly? if so, which one is your best chart !?!?
and for what game, i'd like to have a look at those

Charts are good for beginning players, but later, your hand selection should depend on who you are playing against, and you shouldn't rely on charts anymore.
It's better to learn preflop concepts and apply them in game