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Hi, I'm new here,only spent a few hours at the site so far. Started downloading a 1.9GB file (25% done)and also a 7,9GB freeleech file (just started). Now I see a red warning sign flashing, threatening that I will be banned if I don't maintain a ratio of 2,5. I'm all for ratios, but I have to start somewhere to be able to seed, don't I? Do I have to stop downloading the 1.9GB file or can I risk finishing it? How much time do I have to get my ratio up? (I also posted this in the section about ratios, but there seems to be very little traffic, hoped to get info quicker here)

i answered you other post

tankgirl use some freeleech torrents as peeps will download these are there are free to your ratio
free DL but UL credits your account

for your attention it still doesnt say anything about free ratios in thier rules
it does say
•Low ratios may result in severe consequences, including banning in extreme cases.

but i agree with nealy everything you said

.25 ratio is really not asking much from users... just seed... seed... seed... seed... not sure how many times I should say it... I mean my port fowarding is messed up (hard to connect) but I still was able to break the .25 barrier... you just joined the site so I'm sure you will be fine

@peabody
you're right in some spots and you're wrong in others...

You know my opinion in ratio subject, because I wrote my opinions few times before. So there is no point to repeat myself, but let me write some  thoughts about some of your arguments...

I didn't ever thought about ratio system as some kind of class system or any kind way of pointing that someone is better from another. You're right that it should be sharing and friendly community, but thing is when I see a guy with 0.08 ratio or something similar, I can assure you that he's not sharing at all - he's only taking what he wants and asking for more. And it turns out that suddenly whole stuff is all over the web, and it brings a lot of unnecessary attention to this site.

You all can say what you want about me and my attitude to others, but when someone is not contributing to the community at all, i'm still claiming that we don't need him.

And about whole "keeping ratio" stuff. You right about your math, but that's why there is 0,5 ratio rule and I dont have anything against people who have 0,3-0,4 and have problems with seeding, but if someone have less than 0,15 i can bet that he shuts uTorrent one second after downloading stuff and open again when something new came out.

So when you're saying about hatred or some ridiculous arguing, I am against all of that, but I'm also against people who can't take a single effort to be a part of this community.

P.S. I haven't some big advice about keeping ratio, but my UL speed is 1/10 of DL speed, so it can be done, just keep program open when you're not downloading, for example when you watch a movie or play poker.

Yeah, but if someone maintain decent ratio before, it's just matter of time when he will be fine again.

And to finally shut down this endless topic, think about it from the other side, if there weren't any annoying leechers asking for every new stuff or begging for registration to freeroll, it would be really calm and peaceful forum  

People who came here only to take what they want with disregard to existing rules are annoying for me. I don't care if you have problem with that.

Yeah, and let's change poker rules to allow cheating, because cheaters are annoying me too...

Rules are fine and not so hard to abide if someone want to do it.

why? it seems like difference between you and me is that you don't care if someone break the rules... or maybe any rules is your problem?

now now peeps

i once was told that rules are there to be broken
but...thats why we have mods to deal with it

but feel free to raise your opinions in this forum post
http://www.bestpokertorrents.com/poker-forum/topic/587/Ratios

I think it's perfectly OK to have a low ratio for some time when a new member just starts out. Hopefully their ratio will improve over time, as they are sharing back what they've got.

But. I often feel very strange when I upload something requested (say some DC stuff) and then I either get PMs or requests in the torrent comments/shoutbox to upload more stuff, this and that, specifically, and I can see the guy has a ratio of 0.05. Or 0.17.

I don't think I ever pointed at anyone that they "don't have the right to speak" because of their ratios, just as I said, I feel strange. The ratio does not imply any kind of superiority/inferiority/more or less rights at all, but I think it is a measure of the attitude, to a great extent. It is all about sharing. I give you guys what I have, and you share what you have. Either UL new stuff or share it back to others.

Someone with 0.05 is not sharing. I don't know how I achieved this ratio (joined in February) when the client runs on a virtual computer, way not 24/7, I am behind a firewall and despite my port forwarding attempts, often I am not connectable unless I force the connection manually ("forced seeding". At least I tried..

Uff, I spoke.